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# Bob Freeman: The Occult Detective’s Journey Through Magic and Mystery

## Introduction

Very nice of Bob Freeman: The Occult Detective to spend some of his valuable time answering my questions. As you can see from his bio and his site has had quite an exciting life in the pursuit of these magical and mysterious subjects!

> **Bob Freeman** is an Occult Detective, author, artist, game designer, and musician.
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> His lifelong passions for mythology, folklore, magick, and religion has led him to become a respected lecturer on the occult and paranormal phenomena.
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> While his base of operations is squarely in Northern Indiana, over the years Freeman has tracked shapeshifters through the Ozarks of Arkansas, communed with spirits at Mesa Verde’s Sun Temple, searched for the Holy Grail in Rosslyn Chapel, helped call down rain atop Hopi’s First Mesa, hunted the Skunk Ape in the swamplands of Florida, gone spelunking in the caves of Southern Indiana and Kentucky in search of Paisa, and more…
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> [Biography | occultdetective.com](https://authorbobfreeman.wordpress.com/about/)

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**PAA: What inspired you to become an occult detective, and how did your early experiences shape this path?**

I was fascinated by the occult from as far back as I can remember, before grade school for sure. The late sixties and seventies were simply infused with magic. There were so many factors that led to my appetite for it. Because of the popularity of things like Rosemary's Baby and The Exorcist, the occult was in flavor, and it was everywhere. Horror comics were a huge influence, as were television programs such as Dark Shadows, The Night Stalker, and The Sixth Sense, but more than that, witches and occult investigators were all over talk shows and the tabloids, as well as all the chatter about cryptids, UFOS, and other strange phenomena.

I knew I wanted to be a part of that world and began chasing spirits as a child. I lived near a popular urban legend hot-spot, an old haunted cemetery in the middle of nowhere, and I would sneak out of the house and set up camp there, desperate to make some sort of contact with the other side. I investigated abandoned buildings, old Indian mounds, and chased down every local ghost story I could, always looking for a glimpse into the unnatural, all before I was even in Junior High School.

It just continued to escalate as I got older, and well, here we are, some fifty years later, and I'm still trying to peek behind the veil in search of answers to life's great mysteries.

**PAA: Have you encountered any significant skepticism from law enforcement or the public regarding your work?**

There are always going to be skeptics, and that's good. I don't view skepticism as a bad thing. It keeps us honest and focused. Truth be told, I enter into situations with a fair amount of skepticism myself, because I understand human nature all too well. In most instances, when I have consulted with officials, I have been treated with respect. They're looking for answers, and typically, I am able to give them a piece of the puzzle. The only issues I've ever had have been in those rare instances when I was looking into something on my own and stumbled into an onging investigation. They don't always take kindly to that. And understandably so. Theirs is a tough job... especially if something out of the ordinary is present.

**PAA: Can you discuss the impact of the Satanic Panic era on your life and career?**

Well, therein lies the proverbial rub. I was a young man when the Satanic Panic exploded around us in 1980. I would have been fourteen at the time. Of course, the "Panic" was initially centered around daycare centers being covers for so-called Satanic practices, but would soon include rock music and backmasking, Dungeons and Dragons, comics, and anything else frightened evangelicals  could point a finger at.

Growing up in the Midwest, I was in the center of it all. Virtually everything I was obsessed with was a target of the Panic and, being a teenager, I didn't take it well. I attended more than one book and album burning, intent on rescuing what I could. But I also tried to intellectually engage the adults who were fevered over what they perceived as Satan's hold on America's youth.

Without going into details, I was targeted by my community, branded as, well, I guess, what I was — an occultist, though they viewed us all as diabolical. It wasn't easy, to be sure. But it was an interesting time, to watch people unravel, to spiral into the depths of conspiracy theories and over inflated exaggerations. And to see how political and religious leaders and media personalities were using this as a means to generate wealth and influence.

It was a crash course in societal behavior and the politics of wolves, sheep, and shepherds.

**PAA: Your writing often features magic intertwined with folklore. What inspired you to explore these elements in your narratives?**

My family were all reared in the Ozarks, so when they transplanted from the hills of Arkansas to rural Indiana in the fifties, they brought with them the folk tales of the south and I was raised on those stories — tales about the Boggy Creek Monster, Snawfus, Rawhead Rex, and countless haunted boneyards and hollows.

Living in the country, we readily accumulated and assimilated the local folklore of these new environs, and as luck would have it, one of the most prolific urban legends in our nape of the woods was centered around a small cemetery very close to our woodland homestead. It was part and parcel to my development as not only a paranormal investigator but as a collector of stories. The rich folklore of the Miami Indians, and of the settlers to the region became an invaluable resource to me as both a storyteller and occult detective.

**PAA: How do you distinguish between magic as a storytelling tool and as a representation of spiritual practices in your work?**

They tend to be one and the same. The secret to verisimilitude is being as honest as you can when constructing fiction. My beliefs are littered throughout my stories, but so too are other beliefs that I have interacted with, because, quite simply, we are not all on the same page, so I try, in my storytelling, to maintain that degree of disconnect.

**PAA: In what ways do you draw from various magical traditions when crafting your stories?**

One of the things that helps a story tick is through understanding the essence of ritual and its practice. If you can convey that on the page, by showing the depth of a character's faith, be they a pagan, ceremonial magician, or Catholic priest, it all comes down to constructing real people with real beliefs and playing with what happens when those beliefs are challenged.

It can be tricky, but if you educate yourself and construct a magical philosophy within the context of the individual, and you've done your homework, then the reader is able to suspend their disbelief and go along for the ride.

**PAA: What are some misconceptions about magic that you believe are prevalent in popular culture, and how do you address them in your narratives?**

Well, naturally, the majority of pop cultural magic is going to be made up from whole cloth. From a fantasy perspective, it is understandable. It's far easier to create than it is to be mindful of an actual philosophy or tradition. It is one of the reasons I admire the works of the Golden Dawn authors, like Machen, Blackwood, Crowley, Fortune, and others. Even Blavatsky tried her hand at fiction. For those adept in the practice of the occult sciences, it becomes a way to inject those beliefs, to instruct, through storytelling and to build an understanding, in a more mindful and subtle way.

**PAA: To what extent do your personal beliefs influence how you portray magical elements in your stories? Are there specific beliefs that guide your writing?**

As an occult detective and a writer, my personal beliefs undoubtedly influence how I portray magical elements in my stories. I draw heavily from my experiences and my understanding of the world around me, weaving in the complexities of belief systems, both historical and modern.

My fascination with the occult goes beyond mere fantasy; it stems from a genuine curiosity about the unseen forces that shape our lives. I believe there's a fine line between the known and the unknown, and it’s my duty as a storyteller to explore that territory. This exploration is influenced by my belief in the interconnectedness of all things—how our thoughts, actions, and beliefs can manifest in reality.

Specific beliefs guide my writing, particularly the notion that magic is not just an abstract concept but a tangible force that can affect change. You see this in the characters I create and the worlds I build. I aim to portray magical elements in a way that feels both authentic and relatable, grounding them in emotional truths and human experiences.

All in all, I strive to keep an open mind. The world of the occult is filled with mysteries, and I don’t claim to have all the answers. This humility allows me to portray magic in a way that's expansive, inviting readers to question their own beliefs and experiences. Ultimately, I view my stories as a dialogue—not just between characters, but with the readers themselves, encouraging them to explore their own connections to the mystical.

**PAA: How do you perceive the evolving relationship between folklore and contemporary spirituality in today's society?**

The relationship between folklore and contemporary spirituality is one that continuously evolves and adapts, much like the cultures from which these narratives stem. In today’s society, we’re witnessing a fascinating resurgence of interest in folklore—myths, legends, and traditions that were once considered relics of the past are being revived and reinterpreted through the lens of modern spirituality.

This revival is partly a reaction to the fast-paced, technology-driven world we live in. Many individuals are longing for a deeper sense of connection to the earth, the cosmos, and their own heritage. Folklore provides a rich tapestry of symbols and stories that speak to our deeper instincts and collective subconscious. People are increasingly finding comfort and meaning in these tales, merging them with contemporary spiritual practices.

Contemporary spirituality often embraces eclecticism, allowing individuals to cherry-pick elements from various traditions, including folklore from different cultures. This is both liberating and, at times, fraught with challenges. It raises questions about cultural appropriation and the authenticity of these practices. However, I believe that folklore, at its core, is about the sharing of human experiences—narratives meant to be adapted and retold.

In my work, I often weave these themes together, exploring how ancient stories can coexist with modern beliefs and personal spiritual journeys. Folklore acts as a bridge, connecting us to our past while also offering insights into our present and future. It reminds us that the magic and mystery of the world aren't confined to old tomes or dusty libraries; they’re alive in our dreams, our rituals, and the way we see the world.

Ultimately, this evolving relationship is a testament to the resilience of human creativity and our enduring quest to understand the mysteries of existence. It’s an invitation to engage with the world in a more profound way, to see the magic that surrounds us every day, and to honor the stories that have shaped our identities.

**PAA: In your view, what significance does nature hold in your depiction of magic? Is it an integral aspect of magical practice or belief systems?**

First and foremost, I am an animist, so for me, nature is a vital element of magick and the broader metaphysical landscape. Nature is not just a backdrop; it embodies the very essence of magical practice and belief, and this is a monumental influence on how I portray the supernatural in my stories. But more importantly, it is the very frame work of my core belief system, that we are all connected to the multiverse in ways that we can scarcely comprehend, let alone explain with our limited perception of the material plane.

By interweaving the natural world with the magical one, I am attempting to create a rich and immersive experience. I do this by trying to maintain consistency so that the reader can more fully find themselves within something they can understand on a base level.  If they can feel the connectivity between these two worlds, then maybe a little of that will rub off and they just might feel that connect outside of the fiction.

**PAA: When creating fantastical or supernatural elements, what strategies do you employ for effective world-building?**

Creating a believable and immersive world where the supernatural coexists along the so-called real world is one of the most rewarding aspects of writing for me. I think my background in anthropology, and my deep interests in folklore, magic, and belief systems, is an integral part of how I construct a believable world.

The trick is in making it feel lived in. You do that by placing believable characters in unbelievable situations. Through their lens, the fantastical becomes more plausible.

**PAA: Your stories often involve occult detectives and paranormal investigators. What aspects of this genre appeal to you, and how does it facilitate the exploration of magic and spirituality?**

The appeal of the occult detective genre is deeply rooted in the intersection of mystery, exploration, and the human experience with the unseen. For me, these characters serve as both conduits and guides into realms where the tangible meets the intangible, and where magic and spirituality come alive in ways that reflect our deepest fears and desires.

One key aspect of this genre that captivates me is the investigative element. The notion of unraveling enigmatic occurrences allows for a rich narrative structure—each case can delve into the unknown, presenting layers of complexity that mirror our own struggles to understand the world around us. The detective represents our quest for knowledge and truth, often confronting the shadows of belief, superstition, and the unknown.

**PAA: With your academic background in anthropology focusing on witchcraft and religion, how has this knowledge enriched your writing process?**

My studies at Ball State provided me with a deeper understanding of various beliefs, rituals, and cultural practices. Through this I have tried to create more authentic and realistic portrayals of magical elements in my stories. By examining diverse cultures, I try to tap into both historical and contemporary practices, so that the supernatural aspects I employ feel grounded in real-world traditions.

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